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		<title>Comment on Don Gerard for Mayor by Ryan Jerving</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2011/04/02/don-gerard-for-mayor/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Jerving]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better late than never - that&#039;s what I said! The bigger question is how the hell you found it now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better late than never &#8211; that&#8217;s what I said! The bigger question is how the hell you found it now?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don Gerard for Mayor by Mayor Don Gerard</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2011/04/02/don-gerard-for-mayor/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mayor Don Gerard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How the hell did I miss this? Better late than never!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the hell did I miss this? Better late than never!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Granny, Does Your Dog Bite? by viper 5902</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2008/03/17/granny-does-your-dog-bite/#comment-1306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[viper 5902]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;viper 5902...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Granny, Does Your Dog Bite? &#171; THE VIPER[...]...]]></description>
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<p>[...]Granny, Does Your Dog Bite? &laquo; THE VIPER[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on His Famous Orchestra by Megan Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/about/his-famous-orchestra/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 00:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is interesting that the guitar can be a part of the orchestra I always thought it was separate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is interesting that the guitar can be a part of the orchestra I always thought it was separate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Gnobuddy</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gnobuddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cliff, MuseScore has a few thousand things that do work, and even your oddball requirements simply require a few extra mouse clicks from you - and all you can do is complain endlessly about how broken it is, along with every other free program? Way to look a gift horse in the mouth, dude!

I recommend you go splash a few hundred bucks apiece on a few commercial music notation programs, searching for the magic one that gives you the warm fuzzies you crave, the one that can read your mind and figure out what you intend to put on paper without ever requiring more than one mouse click from you. Good luck with that.

-Gnobuddy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff, MuseScore has a few thousand things that do work, and even your oddball requirements simply require a few extra mouse clicks from you &#8211; and all you can do is complain endlessly about how broken it is, along with every other free program? Way to look a gift horse in the mouth, dude!</p>
<p>I recommend you go splash a few hundred bucks apiece on a few commercial music notation programs, searching for the magic one that gives you the warm fuzzies you crave, the one that can read your mind and figure out what you intend to put on paper without ever requiring more than one mouse click from you. Good luck with that.</p>
<p>-Gnobuddy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Cliff</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the interesting reading. ;-)

http://musescore.org/en/node/9853

It is clearly stated in this reference, something I learned the hard way over a 12 hour period.  MuseScore is broken.

&quot;The first is beaming an eighth to a sixteenth triplet. This is a common bebop idiom, but by default, MuseScore does not do this. So after entering the notes, you need to back up to the first note after the break you wish to remove, then open the Beam Properties palette and double-click the &quot;Middle of beam&quot; icon.&quot;

The author of this didn&#039;t mention how very clumsy it is to enter the notes to start with.

He also didn&#039;t mention if you copy and paste your creation of a &#039;6/8 doublet&#039;, you won&#039;t be able to change the scale value of the notes.

Finally, while the beam is, indeed, very annoying, it&#039;s  not a show stopper.

The real show stopper for me is the lame note entry method.

Honestly, the only reason I can think of that the note entry is so lame is that the programmers are not creating new music of their own and trying to use MuseScore to provide the associated lead sheets.

It&#039;s not that MiseScore just absolutely won&#039;t do this, because I did struggle my way through and find a way.. but.. After i copied the &#039;doublet&#039;, I couldn&#039;t edit it after I pasted it leaving me with the very unsavory chore of fighting through the clumsy note entry at every &#039;doublet&#039; with different notes each time. This is like having a program that is not only clumsy but stupid as well.

Yes, admittedly, this sounds harsh.  Sadly, the note entry methods of other free programs have mimicked MuseScore, or Vica Versa and that needs to stop.

I would add this.  &#039;Doublets&#039; are very common to 6/8 music in general, and probly 2/3 and 4/8.  Hmm..

Could there be like one day of programming time available in the ranks to fix this ?  A nice big red SCREAMING WARNING would have saved me a ton of time.  Sometimes the best answer is the truth. &quot;We only allow certain note entries of certain forms of music so don&#039;t try using MuseScore as a general purpose program lead sheet creator as you will be sorely disappointed.&quot;

I&#039;ve stated in other venues that using the note characteristics table to set up notes, as is described using the typing method, and then simply clicking the mouse to set the note on the page would be a wonder way to enter notes.  Beyond this, selection of any individual note would pop up the note entry table, showing everything about the note including its scale value, any of which could be changed with a single click and then entered as the edited not with a the Enter key... 

Is there any money available to fix this otherwise very huge, powerful, probably all encompassing program to make it actually useful for daily work?

Good luck with the project and please let me know if you decide to fix it.  I will be at the front of the download line when it&#039;s done.

Cliff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the interesting reading. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://musescore.org/en/node/9853" rel="nofollow">http://musescore.org/en/node/9853</a></p>
<p>It is clearly stated in this reference, something I learned the hard way over a 12 hour period.  MuseScore is broken.</p>
<p>&#8220;The first is beaming an eighth to a sixteenth triplet. This is a common bebop idiom, but by default, MuseScore does not do this. So after entering the notes, you need to back up to the first note after the break you wish to remove, then open the Beam Properties palette and double-click the &#8220;Middle of beam&#8221; icon.&#8221;</p>
<p>The author of this didn&#8217;t mention how very clumsy it is to enter the notes to start with.</p>
<p>He also didn&#8217;t mention if you copy and paste your creation of a &#8217;6/8 doublet&#8217;, you won&#8217;t be able to change the scale value of the notes.</p>
<p>Finally, while the beam is, indeed, very annoying, it&#8217;s  not a show stopper.</p>
<p>The real show stopper for me is the lame note entry method.</p>
<p>Honestly, the only reason I can think of that the note entry is so lame is that the programmers are not creating new music of their own and trying to use MuseScore to provide the associated lead sheets.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that MiseScore just absolutely won&#8217;t do this, because I did struggle my way through and find a way.. but.. After i copied the &#8216;doublet&#8217;, I couldn&#8217;t edit it after I pasted it leaving me with the very unsavory chore of fighting through the clumsy note entry at every &#8216;doublet&#8217; with different notes each time. This is like having a program that is not only clumsy but stupid as well.</p>
<p>Yes, admittedly, this sounds harsh.  Sadly, the note entry methods of other free programs have mimicked MuseScore, or Vica Versa and that needs to stop.</p>
<p>I would add this.  &#8216;Doublets&#8217; are very common to 6/8 music in general, and probly 2/3 and 4/8.  Hmm..</p>
<p>Could there be like one day of programming time available in the ranks to fix this ?  A nice big red SCREAMING WARNING would have saved me a ton of time.  Sometimes the best answer is the truth. &#8220;We only allow certain note entries of certain forms of music so don&#8217;t try using MuseScore as a general purpose program lead sheet creator as you will be sorely disappointed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stated in other venues that using the note characteristics table to set up notes, as is described using the typing method, and then simply clicking the mouse to set the note on the page would be a wonder way to enter notes.  Beyond this, selection of any individual note would pop up the note entry table, showing everything about the note including its scale value, any of which could be changed with a single click and then entered as the edited not with a the Enter key&#8230; </p>
<p>Is there any money available to fix this otherwise very huge, powerful, probably all encompassing program to make it actually useful for daily work?</p>
<p>Good luck with the project and please let me know if you decide to fix it.  I will be at the front of the download line when it&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>Cliff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Thomas Bonte</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Bonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out the MuseScore in 10 easy steps: http://www.youtube.com/musescorehowto#p/c/6BDCE01557636C85 Hopefully that will bring you further. If not, repost your question on http://musescore.org/en/forum The community is really helpful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the MuseScore in 10 easy steps: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/musescorehowto#p/c/6BDCE01557636C85" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/musescorehowto#p/c/6BDCE01557636C85</a> Hopefully that will bring you further. If not, repost your question on <a href="http://musescore.org/en/forum" rel="nofollow">http://musescore.org/en/forum</a> The community is really helpful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Cliff</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Thank you. I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ve read this but I very much want to make this work soo... off to the tutes again.  MuseScore is very impressive at the macroscopic level but when you get down to the microscopic level, I have found it to be counter-intuitive, clumbsy and even operable at single note entry or manipulation.  Hope I&#039;m wrong...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Thank you. I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ve read this but I very much want to make this work soo&#8230; off to the tutes again.  MuseScore is very impressive at the macroscopic level but when you get down to the microscopic level, I have found it to be counter-intuitive, clumbsy and even operable at single note entry or manipulation.  Hope I&#8217;m wrong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Cliff</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cliff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emily if you love it then I&#039;m doing something wrong.  Can you help me with a simple note entry method that actually puts notes on the paper one at a time with all the right characteristics ( 16th, natural F for the first) and then add a dotted 1/8 F# next to it with bar linking ending and not going on to the third note.  I&#039;ve spent hours learning this just barely works and then copying this &#039;doublet&#039;, pasting it and changing to and E,F# doublet just coulddn&#039;t be done]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily if you love it then I&#8217;m doing something wrong.  Can you help me with a simple note entry method that actually puts notes on the paper one at a time with all the right characteristics ( 16th, natural F for the first) and then add a dotted 1/8 F# next to it with bar linking ending and not going on to the third note.  I&#8217;ve spent hours learning this just barely works and then copying this &#8216;doublet&#8217;, pasting it and changing to and E,F# doublet just coulddn&#8217;t be done</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using MuseScore to create lead sheets by Thomas Bonte</title>
		<link>http://theviper.org/2009/06/24/using-musescore-to-create-lead-sheets/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Bonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Cliff,

You may be interested in reading this: http://musescore.org/en/node/9853
It&#039;s a complete tutorial how to create lead sheets with MuseScore. Make sure you installed MuseScore 1.0 before getting started.

Good lukc with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cliff,</p>
<p>You may be interested in reading this: <a href="http://musescore.org/en/node/9853" rel="nofollow">http://musescore.org/en/node/9853</a><br />
It&#8217;s a complete tutorial how to create lead sheets with MuseScore. Make sure you installed MuseScore 1.0 before getting started.</p>
<p>Good lukc with it.</p>
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